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Football Oddities
Saturday, June 21, 2025
Monday, June 2, 2025
How Europa League Qualification Impacts Non-Big 6 Clubs
Since UEFA renamed its second tier UEFA Cup the Europa League in 2009, 23 clubs from outside the Premier League's "Big 6" (i.e. Arsenal, Chelsea. Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United, Tottenham Hotspur) have qualified for the tournament.
Two of these clubs (Birmingham City and Wigan Athletic) qualified whilst being relegated, and of the remaining 21 clubs, on average the Premier League position has been 2.5 places lower the following season.
Only two clubs have improved their Premier League placing from the previous season, and only one was a club which competed in the Group Stage.
In 2014-15, Southampton finished the Premier League season in 7th place and entered the Europa League in the Third Qualifying Round. After comfortably defeating Vitesse (Netherlands) 5:0 on aggregate to advance to the Play-Off Round, they were eliminated by Midtjylland (Denmark) 1:2 on aggregate.
The four games were all completed by August 27th and Southampton went on to finish the 2015-16 Premier League season in 6th place, one place higher than the previous season and they again qualified for the Europa League.
The ONLY time a non-Big 6 club has played in the Europa League Group Stage and improved its Premier League placing was in 2023-24 when West Ham United had placed 14th the previous season but had won the Europa Conference League to qualify.
West Ham entered the tournament at the Group Stage, playing six matches against Freiburg (Germany), Olympiacos (Greece) and TSC (Serbia) and advanced to the Round of 16 after winning the group with five wins and one loss.
West Ham again faced Freiburg winning 5:0 at home after losing 0:1 away, and lost in the Quarter-Final against Bayer Leverkusen (Germany) 1:3 on aggregate.
Despite playing these ten matches, West Ham were able to finish 9th in the Premier League, an improvement of five places.
Three clubs competed in the Europa League and finished in the same position as the previous season.
In 2009-10, Aston Villa were eliminated in the Play-Off Round after two matches.
In 2019-20, Wolverhampton Wanderers played 17 Europa League matches, losing to the eventual winners Sevilla in the Quarter-Finals, but were able to repeat their 7th place Premier League finish.
In 2020-21, Leicester City entered at the Group Stage and played eight matches before being eliminated in the Round of 32 by Slavia Prague (Czechia). They repeated their 5th place finish of the previous season in the Premier League.
Thursday, January 16, 2025
FA Cup 1945-46
The FA Cup of 1945-56 was the first official football competition in England after World War Two had ended.
Hull City and New Brighton from the Third Division (North) did not enter as neither had a ground available and strangely Second Division Newport County were not given a bye to the Third Round as other First and Second Division clubs were, and entered the competition at the First Round stage.
Conversely, Third Division clubs Cardiff City, Chester, Crystal Palace and Norwich City were all awarded byes to the Third Round.
In the event of aggregate scores being level after 90 minutes of the second leg had been played, the FA rules were that the match should be "played to a finish".
Two of the four - the Everton v Preston North End and York City v Chesterfield ties - were tied at 3:3 on aggregate.
Preston's penalty was scored by Bill Shankly, and this is possibly the only 'golden goal' in FA Cup history. Coincidentally, Joe Fagan also scored on this day, twice for Liverpool in a 2:1 win over Chester.
It's unclear whether the rules were meant to mean 'next goal wins' once a 20 minute extra-time period had been completed, or whether additional extra-time periods should be completed until a winner was decided, but apparently Everton decided enough was enough. Rules are made to be broken and if there was a provision for a Golden Goal, it wouldn't have been a new idea since this rule was in place for the Youdan Cup played in 1867, a competition which preceded the FA Cup by four years.
Norfolk beat Bromhall 1:0 after sudden death overtime.The same 'sudden death' rule was also agreed by the captains of Garrick and Wednesday in the Cromwell Cup Final played at Brammall Lane the following year after 90 minutes of play had seen no goals.
The other two ties without a winner were Nottingham Forest v Watford who had drawn both their matches 1:1 and Queen's Park Rangers v Crystal Palace who had failed to score a goal between then in 180 minutes.
Both matches, then went into extra time with ten minutes each way to be played, but with no further scoring in this additional period, the ties remained unsettled.
At Crystal Palace, the second period of extra-time was ended after 7 minutes when "the referee called the players off the field in almost total darkness", while at Watford the second 20 minutes of extra-time was completed, but after three minutes of a third, and a total of 133 minutes of play, the referee abandoned the game. With the matches kicking off at 2pm in mid-January, this is understandable.
Wednesday, January 15, 2025
Aliens in the English Cup
In the early days of the tournament, clubs from both Scotland and Ireland played in the FA Cup.
The first competition was in the 1871-72 season and Queen's Park reached the semi-final without playing a match. In the First Round they were drawn against Donnington School, but both clubs were allowed to advance to the second round "because they could not agree on a venue."
In the Second Round, the same two clubs were again drawn together, and this time the school club withdrew from the competition, meaning that Queen's Park progressed to the quarter-final, still without having played a match.
Queens' Park then drew a Bye in the Third Round, thus advancing to the Semi-Final without having played a match. All Semi-Final matches as well as the Final were at Kennington Oval, but after Queen's Park drew 0:0 with Wanderers, they declined the offer from Wanderers to play thirty minutes of extra-time, and later withdrew from the competition as they could not afford to make a second journey from Glasgow.
The second competition in 1872-73 saw Queen's Park again enter, and to save on travel costs, they were given a Bye in each of the First, Second and Third Rounds meaning they reached the Semi-Final where they were drawn to play Oxford University. Queen's Park then withdrew anyway.
Queen's Park took no further part in the FA Cup until the 1876-77 season, but another team from Glasgow, Clydesdale, entered in 1875-76 but their First Round opponents South Norwood were awarded a walkover.
In 1876-77, Queen's Park were again awarded a Bye in the First and Second Rounds, before being drawn once again against Oxford University in the Third Round, and similar to four seasons earlier, Oxford University were awarded a walkover.
The 1879-80 competition marked the first of four consecutive seasons which saw Queen's Park enter the tournament, be drawn as the away side in the First Round, and for the home side to be awarded a walkover. The 1879/80 season saw Queen's Park return but once again they didn't play a match, with Sheffield being awarded a walkover in their First Round tie.
The following season, Queen's Park were drawn at The Wednesday in the First Round, and again the home side were awarded a walkover.
Queen's Park (Glasgow, Scotland) were beaten finalists in 1884 and 1885, winning a semi-final in Edinburgh in 1885, while in an 1886 tie Partick Thistle of Scotland beat Cliftonville of Ireland 11-0.
Sunday, May 28, 2023
FA Cup Third Place
1969-70
Manchester United (0) 2 (Kidd 2)
Watford (0) 0
Manchester United: Stepney, Stiles, Dunne, Crerand, Ure, Sadler, Morgan, Fitzpatrick, Charlton, Kidd, Best
Watford: Walker, Welbourne, Williams, Garvey, Lees, Eddy, Scullion, Franks, Garbett, Walley, Jennings
1970-71
Stoke City (1) 3 (Bernard, Ritchie 2)
Everton (2) 2 (Whittle, Ball)
Stoke City: Banks, Marsh, Pejic, Bernard, Skeels, Lees, Haselgrave, Greenhoff, Ritchie, Mahoney, Burrows
Everton: Rankin, Wright, Newton, Kendall, Labone, Harvey, Whittle, Ball, Johnson, Lyons, Morrissey
1971/72
Birmingham City (0) 0
Stoke City (0) 0
Birmingham City: Cooper, Carroll, Pendrey, Smith, Hynd, Harland, Campbell, Francis, Latchford, Hatton, Taylor
Stoke City: Farmer, Marsh, Pejic, Skeels, Smith, Bloor, Robertson, Greenhoff, Ritchie, Hurst, Dobing
Notes: This match was the first FA Cup match to be decided on penalties, Birmingham winning 4:3, and was Geoff Hurst's debut for Stoke.
1972/73
Arsenal (0) 1 (Hornsby)
Wolverhampton Wanderers (2) 3 (McCalliog, Dougan 2)
Arsenal: Wilson, Batson, McNab, Price, Blockley, Simpson, Chambers, Ball, Radford, Kennedy, Hornsby
Wolverhampton Wanderers: Parkes, Palmer, Parkin, Hegan, Jefferson, Taylor, McCalliog, Sunderland, Richards, Dougan (sub Hibbitt), Wagstaffe
1973/74
Leicester City (0) 0
Burnley (1) 1 (Hankin)
Leicester City: Wallington, Woollett, Rofe, Earle, Munro, Cross, Tomlin, Sammels, Stringfellow, Kilkelly, Glover (sub Lee)
Burnley: Finn, Newton, Brennan, Ingham, Thomson, Rodaway, Nulty, Hankin, Noble, Flavell, Flynn
Tuesday, May 23, 2023
North British League
THE NORTH BRITISH LEAGUE
The Football Association will, it is understood, give its sanction to formation of the League to be called the North British League comprising the Edinburgh Hibernians, Heart of Midlothian, Dundee, Middlesbrough, Newcastle United and Sunderland clubs. The Scottish F.A. has already signified its willingness to accede to the request of the new League, and arrangements are being pushed forward as much as possible.
Monday, May 22, 2023
Chelsea / Kensington FC
NEW ASSOCIATION CLUB FOR LONDON.
The development of Association football in London is remarkable. No popular sport has made such progress during the last decade, and it is not to be wondered that land speculators are becoming alive to the big opening which exists for up-to-date and fully equipped grounds.
The Football Association prohibits the running of proprietarv teams, but all difficulties in that direction can be overcome by the formation of a company and the registration of a team. I hear (writes our London correspondent) that shares will be offered to the public in connection with a company which is be formed for acquirement of the Stamford Bridge ground - the old home of the London Athletic Club as a football and sports enclosure. A first class team is being raised under the name of the Kensington Football Club, and, encouraged by the success of Woolwich Arsenal, admission to the league (Second Division) is to be sought.
Promotion is by merit, of course, and there no royal road to success in football, otherwise a good round sum would be put down by the promoters of the company named for admission into the First Division the League. The Fulham people are not pleased to know that such serious opposition is threatened, for up to now they have had enormous attendances at their matches. A genuine London First Division team would, however, be a wonderful draw from the beginning.
Saturday, May 20, 2023
Charlton / London Athletic
Charlton may change name of club
Charlton may change the name of the club. The secretary, Mr. Jack Phillips, confirmed this today.
"The idea has been raised several times, but nothing has ever been decided. No change will be considered this season, but something may be done in the future. I understand that some directors are keen to incorporate the name of London in the club's title," he said.
What would be the reaction of other London clubs?
Mr. Bob Wall, the Arsenal secretary, said today: "I do not think any other club would object if they merely wanted to incorporate the word 'London' in the title.
Nothing In Rules
"However, if they wanted to call themselves simply 'London Football Club,' I doubt whether the management committee of the League would allow it."
Mr. Eric Howarth, assistant secretary of the League, said today, "There is nothing in the rules to stop them changing their name. It is up to the management committee."
The last occasion a Football League club changed its name was in 1946, when Clapton Orient became Leyton Orient.
Argonauts
The original Argonauts club played home games on South Hackney Common in the 1870s with its first reported matches in 1875.
The second version was a unique amateur football club based in London. Despite never playing a match or having a published squad, they became notable in the late 1920s for attempting to join the Football League three times.
The team was formed in 1928 by Dick Sloley, Cambridge University and England amateur international, and president of the Ealing Association Football Club as an equivalent to the Scottish Queen's Park club to play in the Football League.
The club applied for Football League status that year, falling in third place but earning a creditable 16 votes. The club went inactive for a year, but reapplied in 1929, this time with Lord Lonsdale as club chairman, coming again in third – one place off acceptance but this time with only 6 votes. Yet again, the club became inactive for a year. A third and final attempt was made in 1930; this time no votes were gained whilst even Llanelly gained 4 votes.
Friday, May 19, 2023
Arsenal / London City
"LONDON CITY," ARSENAL DREAM OF A NEW TITLE.
Saturday, May 6, 2023
Wigan Athletic
Daily Mirror, Friday14th April 1972
Top non-league club Wigan are to apply for membership of the Scottish League. Wigan, Northern Premier League champions, linked to Scotland by the M6 motorway, have made thirty-three unsuccessful applications to join the Football League. Last night the directors — encouraged by reports from north of the border — decided to go ahead with a bid to fill a vacancy in the Scottish Second Division next season. The board's decision follows last month's England v Scotland amateur international, staged at Wigan. A club spokesman said: " The Scottish representatives were impressed. Extensive inquiries have been made, and we shall be putting forward an application for membership of the Scottish League."
Liverpool Echo, Saturday 22nd April 1972
Wigan Athletic startled everyone by their decision to apply for Scottish League membership — but it's no gimmick. Wigan are still desperately anxious to get on in the football world and this ambition, combined with a sense of frustration over a continued failure to make the Football League grade, makes them see Scotland as a possible outlet. That disillusion exists at Springfield Park over the club's League chances is shown by long-serving director Tom Hitchen who declares: "Nobody will get into the League unless a club folds up. They all back each other, so What chances has a club like Wigan or Hereford ?"
However, the Torbay Express and South Devon Echo of the same day reported that:
The Scottish League management Committee have rejected applications from Wigan Athletic and South Shields to join the Second Division of the Scottish League.
Defunct Football Competitions
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2009/jun/26/joy-of-six-extinct-football-competitions
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The FA Cup of 1945-56 was the first official football competition in England after World War Two had ended. Hull City and New Brighton from ...
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Daily Mirror, Friday14th April 1972 Top non-league club Wigan are to apply for membership of the Scottish League. Wigan, Northern Premier L...